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>>> big casino. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. leading off tonight, shooting the moon. president obama met today with congressional leaders to deal with the debt and he may have calmed the republican' bluff. the president is pushing a plan much bigger than before with $4 trillion. that's trillion with a t, spending cuts. major changes to medicare and to social security could be on the table as well. provided republicans agree to an increase in tax revenues. we may be watching president obama outmaneuvering his republican opponents, positioning himself as an even bigger deficit hawk than those on the right. it's a bold move, but will it work? >>> and what happens if no deal on the debt creeling is reached? is president obama's last best option to invoke the 14th amendment, to bypass congress and borrow beyond the debt limit? conservatives are usually quick to defend the constitution, but congressman tim scott of south carolina says that move might be worthy of, believe it or not, impeachment. >>> how's this for a fight? fox is going after
're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but the
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
in this country, if we don't meet our bills, do we get into big trouble, or don't we? some people are holding out and saying, this isn't a problem we can slither through this thing. where are you on that? >> no. i think it is a problem. in fact, you know, we have slowly stair stepped our way into this mess and certainly the gop caucus, right on right crime perpetrated there with the different messages and you know, who's on top of who? who's the leading voice today? done nothing more than muddled the debate for a lot of the american people right now. you're seeing it begin to reflect in the polls. beginning to see it reflect amongst some of the other members of the caucus who are just sick and tired of not getting to a point of resolution. so i think that there are very serious people there beginning to step up with the party on both sides, quite frankly, to move the participants to a point where we can actually begin to get something done. i think, chris, there will be a deal done. the question is, right now, what exactly does it look like, and who's prepared to stand before the american people
're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson boles, senator simpson and former chief of staff irskin boles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over the next 1
tough choices for a big budget deal. today he said without a deal there may not be enough money to send out social security checks. for many republicans in congress, opposing tax has become more than ideology. it's become religion. they're abdicating now their responsibility to co-govern. how are we ever going to get a deal if republican leaders more afraid of the tea party than they are of the economic collapse to come? >>> also, pray away the gay. michele bachmann's husband says the christian counseling practice he runs does not try to pray gay straight, but the video tells a different story. this may make michele bachmann more popular with her base, but what after everyone else? >>> plus, the murdoch scandal keeps getting bigger and bigger. gordon brown told the bbc that murdoch people used known criminals to get access to his personal information and try to bring down his government. the story has now hit the "sunday times" of london and his company stock is sinking. how bad will this get? jon stewart and british ex-pass had fun, a lot of fun, actually, with the murdoch story. that'
how well you understand these things as an attorney and as a correspondent. that's a big level. he we are a case that fascinated a lot of people, including me. what did you think? can eve you even ayou is stunned? i. have to say i was surprised. because how quickly the jurors came back with this verdict and the fact it was a wholesale rejection of the prosecution's case. i mean, the jurors had an array of charges to consider. everything from the top charge of first-degree death penalty eligible murder all wait down to just a straight charge of child abuse, and even though anyone watching this case could see the problems of proof the prosecutors were dealt. the fact we don't know when caylee died, or exactly how caylee died although prosecutors had theories that were consistent with the evidence, but the evidence wasn't positive of those theories. at the end of the day, i thought the jurors might get back there in the jury room and say you know what? given her behavior, not reporting the child missing for 31 day, that search of death emanating out of the trunk of the car, multiple witn
need to do that. we have come up with a trillion in cuts. we need to ask big oil companies and people making over a million dollars to do their fair share by increasing revenues. >> let's talk about a short term deal. are you willing to vote for something that is iks to eight months, the trillion, trillion and a half cuts that have been agred to among the biden group to raise the debt ceiling temporarily? can you sign on to something like that? >> chuck, i prefer ton. i wasn't elected to kick the can. the matter is, he can don't need to kick the can. everybody knows what needs to be done. tighten belts, those are the elements of a long term deal that will help our economy grow and prosper in the future. we have done it before. we could do it again. it would be nice it if we had republicans to noe republicans to negotiate in, in good faith. >> some cuts in medicare, i know you guys have been making a big deal about the 45th anniversary of medicare just past, are you going it sign on some t.o. something that has trends m n medicare as long as you don't feel it hits beneficiaries directl
the heat from the right. he still wants the big deal that would include perhaps cuts in medicare, medicaid and even social security, and with them tax increases. john boehner responded quickly. no to any tax increases, period. well, my question tonight, do republicans want to deal with really tanking the economy to say no to taxes? the face of the deadlock. the president said both sides have people who refuse to compromise. tonight one from each camp. democrat and tea party republican. i'll ask them what price they'll will be to see the country pay so they can stick to their positions. >>> also, not so excellent adventure. both michele bachmann and rick santorum signed a so-called marriage vow from a conservative group that suggested african-americans had a better family life under slavery. who writes this stuff? and worse yet who would sign on to such stuff? by the way, bachmann leads the pack in a new iowa poll, and a scandal keeps getting bigger. a report the tabloid targeted former prime minister gordon brown's voicemail and bank account. how far will this scandal go? and let me finish
's going to play pretty big hardball on this to borrow a phrase, chris. seems to me he really is boehner's back. not just having boehner's back today or boehner's back tomorrow, but he's going to have boehner's back. the question is, can harry reid pry away seven or eight republicans to work with him? where does that happen? at this point i don't think you'll see any movement on a deal publicly, at the earliest, not until sunday. >> is the real fear not that there's a second effort to cut spending a bit more, but the second part of this spending cuts which would come at the end of this year, the vote on that, would actually cut to the bone. go after entitlements, medicare, after things the democrats treasurer jer is that the big fear? i think pelosi, former speaker, now democratic leader, was alluding to that in her very strong statement against the boehner plan tonight? >> reporter: that is one fear. you talk to democrats familiar with the way these negotiations have gone, and they'll say, look, this first $1.2 2r8 trillion, the first round ever cuts they have in their plans are almost
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
big? what would you get rid of? >> i was one of the folks last week who introduced an amendment that said, let's at least freeze defense spendsing. it's not a very popular thing for a republican to do. i like defense, it's important to me. we only got 65 democrats and only 70 republicans. i'm willing to put everything on the table to be serious about spending reductions. >> what do we do about the big entitlements that go through the roof as people get older and older. you can't limit the number of people turning 65 by law. how do you deal with the cost increase? >> let's start by being honest with ourselves. i think the president did that this week. if you read his veto message about cut, cap and balance, he says the only reasons he opposes a balanced budget amendment is that it prevents us from keeping our promises to the seniors. what he's saying is what we have been telling folks back home, you cannot balance the budget without changing medicare, medicaid and social security. you simply can't do it. the folks back home tell you they want a balanced budget amendment. >> but t
this thing? this big cut, cap and balance has nothing in it. i had a hunch it wouldn't be in there. i did something that nobody is doing in your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? >> senator coburj introduced a plan -- >> it's not the coburn plan. it's the bumper sticker. >> the house has a plan. >> why do you keep saying this? >> chris, chris -- >> have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know there's something in there -- i'm reading it right now and -- >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. it's vapor, there is no plan, because there's no leadership. >> todd, the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts over the -- >> there is no plan. >> that was a hostage video, and he is being held hostage by the tea party republicans. >>> let's go to the outlet pass as they say in football. president clinton has weighed in. he writes, quote, clinton says he would invoke the so-called constitutional option to raise the nation's debt ceiling, quote, without hesitation and force the courts to s
some big structural changes to how things work. giving them credit for that. what they say really derailed this is when the gang of six came back. that group of bipartisan senators working for months on their own deal. they were considered to be own the side lines. they burst back on the scene tuesday with a package that differs from what the white house and speaker boehner had been talking bp gop aids say then the white house pulled back. and began to change its demands and change what it wanted. so speaker boehner is saying yes, the white house was willing to change the tax code but then came back and wanted to do things that would have left the possibility for cuts in some of the spending. but not the kind of package that they had talked about. basically it gets complicated. i won't go into all of the weeds but they walked us through many steps of where they say the white house pull pulled back app at that point they felt they had nowhere to go. for example they talked about having a change in the tax code cho would lower rates. after the gang of six they said the wlous no long
's an empty piece of paper and you're bragging about this thing? this big cut cap and balance has nothing in it, and i was amazed. i had a hunch it wouldn't be there. got copy of it. actually did something nobody dmog your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? it doesn't say anything. go ahead. >> senator coburn introduced a plan that was extraordinarily detailed. >> it's not coburn plan, todd. >> it's the bumper sticker being voted on. >> the house has plan. coburn has a plan. >> have you read this, todd? have you read this? have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know you're saying there's something in here and i'm reading it. >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. right here. this is it. nothing. it's vapor. there is no plan, because there's no leadership. period. >> the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts. >> there is no plan. >> to the speaker's credit, she being held hostage by tea party republicans. >> let's go to the outlet as they say in football. the outlet pass. forme
need to do that. we've already come up with a trillion dollars in cuts and we need to ask big oil companies and people making over a million dollars to do their fair share by increasing revenues. >> talk about a short-term deal. are you willing to vote for something that is six to eight months, simply the trillion, trillion and a half in cuts that have been agreed to among, among the biden group to raise the debt ceiling temporarily? can you sign on to something like that? >> chuck, i prefer not to. i wasn't elected to kick the can. the fact of the matter is we don't need to kick the can. everybody know what's needs to be done. tighten our belts, reduce spending, increase revenues, deal with entitlement reform. the elements of a long-term deal that will help our economy grow and pos per in the future. we've done it before. we can do it gren. nice to have republicans to negotiate with in good faith. >> congressman, one of the things that supposedly is getting to have trend's in it, agreed upon according to democrats i've talked to, some cuts in medicare. i know you guys have been m
is not one of the big players in all of this. he has taken a role where he made is clear on the floor where he is fully supportive. he said what needed to be said. throw sug port there. but privately many other senators are telling us mccon sell working on a deal. mcconnell's aides say no, that's ce tnose things together, you get the sense where someone who thinks he can see the end game, thought i had it a while back and the opportunity for members of congress to disapprove a debt ceiling vote, which is part of the mechanics of hoop jumping legislatively is actually a plus for some tea party members who don't want to be on board right now. second ago, paul ducked under the camera to get to another location. he is another one i was thinking of. when you vote against the debt ceiling but give the president that authority that might be way for everybody to get what they want. it is of course too soon to see how it will factor out. but watching mix mcconnell, you will see someone who gets a sense of how things work and to see how he uses the power he earned all this time. >> chuck you first, w
or a sensation. any sense of that? >> the big story here, absolute absolutely. whether used as a mop. a ginger head mop. >> we'll have to leave it there. i'm matt miller in for dylan. "hardball" starting right now. >>> so what's the deal? let's play some "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm in for chris matthews tonight. leading off, deal or no deal. all day long there's been word that a deal between president obama and speaker john bane zer boehner is in the works to save the u.s. from default. pub lkly both sides are denying it. it's clear adults on both sides are trying to avoid default. how do you get to an agreement when pea tae tea parters are saying no deal with tax increases and democrats are saying, no deal without them? we crunched numbers and default would seem to affect almost every american home. >>> also, does michele bachmann have mi have migraines? may be debilitated for days at time or something we would have never mentioned about a male candidate? >>> how did an anti-american terrorist become so trusted by u.s. officials in afghanistan he was allowed close eno
and defending tax loopholes for millionaires and big corporations is what republicans have called for. they need to meet us somewhere. >> thank you, congressman steve israel. >> thank you. >>> joining me now, "washington post's" chris, author of "the fix." a managing editor also. let's visit this grover norquist issue. i think on tuesday in an interview with your "washington post" editorial board, grover norquist, the man famous for his anti-tax pledge, said that not renewing the bush tax cuts would not violate his pledge. listen to some of that audio released. >> not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase. >> stow does not violate the pledge. >> we wouldn't hold it that way. it would be a very bad thing to do. it would raise taxes from where they are today. >> who don't follow the inside baseball the way you and i eat, drink and sleep it. what is the significance of grover norquist saying that? >> for people who don't know, grover norquist since 1985 has run a group called americans for tax reform pap d.c.-based group that does a lot of thing. basically, to hold the line on no t
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